It is debatable whether the world can avoid a 36 degrees F global warming. Many people argue that this is a limit that must not be crossed.
In case you ever doubted that climate science is a psychedelic acid trip gone bad, I plotted RSS satellite data and 20C below. These people are completely certifiable nutjobs.
people sweat and heat
He’s right in that “It is debatable…” But he just lost the debate! Perhaps his mind?
Why stop at 20C? Why not 40C or 100C? Once you are off the deep end, what does it matter?
My son’s friend was at Purdue and he was approached by the climate science program to consider a career in that field. If sent him this article I know he would laugh as he is familiar with the Purdue climate ciriculum and in his view it was mostly sub-par students attracted to the program. He graduated from Purdue and is now working on his PHD elsewhere. One of the projects he is involved in is the design of a new solar PV cell incorporating iron oxide and nanotechnology with the goal of providing cheap solar cells that can be mass produced without using rare earth elements which create a cost barrier to mass production. Such a product would have value to society. What value does the nonsense provided by this climate scientist at Perdue bring by offering nothing more than speculation? What a waste of money!
… climate scientist at Perdue bring …
Are you hungry? Thinkin’ of some chicken?
Ray Kurzweil has that nanoscale PV technology on his roadmap. Might turn PV economically viable. Good luck to your son’s friend!
A scientist? And is he paid for this BS? My friend the farmer is more scientifically knowledgable than this fool. My friend the farmer looks at the sky and tells me what the weather would be like for the next week or so. And he has this to say about the climate: There’s not one year that is like another. Every year is different.
Purdue – they do chicken there don’t they?
Billy,
Purdue, the chicken factory, is based in Maryland and has nothing to do with Purdue U, which is in Indiana. The founder of Purdue chicken is Frank Purdue, thus the name.
Andy
I thought it made a good story, tho. Maybe Big Chicken is behind this story from Purdue U?
Andy,
The chicken people are spelt ‘Perdue’; see my reply to Sudance above.
I guess we shouldn’t be too hard on him. Isn’t it understood that in about 8 Billion years or so the Sun will begin to fry the Earth? Sometime between then and now, the 20C threshold will have been crossed.
For what it is worth there will be a few more Transits of Venus before that happens, and after the June 5th transit this year, no one alive on the planet will see another. Neither will they see a 20C increase in the same lifetime!
Long before all that our Milky Way Galaxy will collide with the Andromeda Galaxy .
That should be interesting .
Jimash:
That will be nice. I have some friends that moved to the Andromeda Galaxy and it will be nice to visit with them again. Even if we had light speed communications it takes about 2.6 million years for mail to go each way and my memory is not good enough to remember what I said 2.6 million years ago.
5.2 million round trip!
That’ll be the reporter’s error, stemming from an incorrect C -> F conversion. It happens all the time. The scientist said “2 degrees C”, then the editor told the reporter to convert that to Fahrenheit, so they stuck it in an online converter…
Note: the online version has already corrected the figures.
http://grist.org/climate-change/and-you-thought-that-heat-wave-was-bad/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gristacct
Still has 6, 10, & 20 in the article as of Thu Mar 29 18:38:49 UTC 2012, so what are you saying they “corrected”?
“It is debatable whether the world can avoid a 36 degrees F global warming” (the only direct quote from the scientist about what degree of rise is actually likely) becomes “It is debatable whether the world can avoid a 2 degrees C global warming.” – i.e. the specific pull quote Steven used.
The reporter does indeed also mention the 10C and 20C predictions, and notes (correctly) that these are fringe predictions.
The import of this specific paper was to put constraints on what counts as “habitable” for humans: 6 degrees C rise would render large parts of the planer uninhabitable,
Yes, that’s the point, isn’t it. Present impossibly hot future temperatures as “likely” and then proceed to lie about the effects. Good thing respectable journals don’t accept unfalsifiable speculation for publication, right?
Peter:
That claim is horse shit. Just look at the temperature variation where humans now live. A thirty C temperature variation is adaptable.
You have been reading to much Mark Lynas, and with that claim you do not know what AGW is supposed to even do. It is supposed to warm the minimum temperatures and decrease the diurnal variation, not raise to max necessarily.
But then CAGW is garbage science any way.
Peter Ellis says:
“6 degrees C rise would render large parts of the planet uninhabitable”
I don’t understand, who’s saying that?
Converting to Fahrenheit? I think that was probably beyond the Grist Journalist’s IQ.
Paul:
If they could do the conversion they would not qualify as a science journalist.
WON-DER-FUL! It boggles the mind. Switch off brain, let computer do work. Typical warmist mentality.
Oh, yeah?
Other models foresee rises in the 10 degrees C range this century; at the outer fringe, predictions range as high as 20 degrees C.
Still on Grist.
Reading the linked article, the torrent of ever-increasing doomy numbers makes the author sound like a compulsive gambler at the Blackjack table.
Yea of little faith… when it’s 5C warmer this time next year, who will be laughing then?
ME!
And a whole lot of people that froze their butts off this year.
Heating up something that is at -40 deg C by 5 degree should take only a third of the energy that it takes to heat up something that is at 40 deg C by 5 deg C, due to the Stefan-Boltzmann Law (4th power of abs temperature).
In other words: Global warming, if it happened, would make cold places more hospitable but make warm places only slightly more warmer.
So, “if it’s 5 deg warmer next year” makes little sense… it would be significantly warmer where it’s needed, and not all that different where it’s already hot. The dirty little secret of the global warming disinformation campaign… Warming is NICE…
I lived in Fargo, North Dakota, for 25yrs. Record low: -48F, record high: 117F. I may not be as smart as this guy, but I am pretty sure the difference is a lot more than 36F. I survived close to that, 25 times (my grandmother did 97 times).
Where can I get some of what this jackalope is smoking?