With Arctic ice essentially identical to the same date in 1996, we can expect to see an ice free Arctic sometime around the year ∞.
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What’s all that white stuff?
Global warming, indeed. That thing of the past!
I think it’s that stuff that Mark Lynas predicted would be “a distant memory”.
Why no ice along the west shore of Hudsons Bay? Canadian Ice Service map shows ice as does NSIDC.
Extrapolating the staggering rate of ice melt from 1996 to 2011, any idiot can see that the Arctic may become ice free as early as the year 4,000.
DC Andy says:
“Extrapolating the staggering rate of ice melt from 1996 to 2011, any idiot can see that the Arctic may become ice free as early as the year 4,000.”
It takes an idiot to extrapolate Arctic Ice melt the way you do, namely from Winter to Winter.
By the way, how many years of life do you think you have left?
If the answer is at least 30 years, then please note: the Arctic will become ice free during the peak of Summer. Idiocy, however, will keep soaring to new heights.
May you live to be as old as my 101 year old grandother.
Nonsense, it will be ice free by 2010
http://www.real-science.com/arctic-ice-free-2010
Pulling bold statements out of your posterior doesn’t make you look intelligent.
Ah, Steve.
May you live to be as old as Methuselah.
Wth every thing you’ve said documented on a daily basis on 3D holographic video; to be played back to you instantaneously, on those occassions when you could have sworn you said something else.
The first 50 years will be amusing. To members of the psychiatric profession.
After that, you will have 900+ years to develop a taste for Nopal and perfect your skills at hunting Desert Rats.
TI:
I perfected my skills hunting Desert Rats during my youth by growing up in the desert!
It is funny you should mention the myth of Methuselah. His years were counted by the lunar year which recurs each of our 28 days.
1000 lunar years equals just under 77 solar years.
TI:
Please define what you are referring to when you say the “Peak” of Summer? Either day of year or better yet month and day.Second, Once you define that for us then define the total number of days the region will be ICE FREE.
I would also like a clarification on what you consider the Arctic? Defined by latitude!
Personally I prefer the geographic definition as within the Arctic Circle 66 degrees 33 minutes 44 seconds North.
Some seem to think it should be as far South as 51 North to include the Hudson Bay.
By increasing the size of the Arctic region we have more ice that normally melts during the warm periods of the year.
Sadly you are wrong and I would suggest not investing in shipping through the Northwest Passage any time soon. Maybe in about 120K years. This Interglacial is history! It ended about 5K years ago, Live with it!
Yes, I realize that “peak of summer” is a loose term and that “summers” are 6 months long.
Let me crudely define “peak” as being round mid September. Length of time in “ice free” condition would initially be a few days, lengthening to weeks and then months throughout the following decades.
There is most likely to be some mild and temporary regressions depending on conditions like La Nina, volcanic activity, major downswing in Solar luminosity, etc.
I’ll go along with your first definition of the Arctic.
Shipping through the Northwest and/or Northeast Passage will be possible at an even earlier date. I’m SWAGging circa 2020, if not sooner.
Maybe we can get together for a cruise 10 years.
By the way, rumors of the Interglacial’s death are much exaggerated.
Mike Davis:
“His years were counted by the lunar year which recurs each of our 28 days.
1000 lunar years equals just under 77 solar years.
Me thinketh you committed three boo boos in those calcuations.
First: the ancient Israelites, like any other culture, had a way of compensating for any ‘drift’ in their calendar. Otherwise their calendars would have been useless within just a few years.
Second: 28 (days) x 12 (months) = 336 days.
336 divided by 365.25 = .8980 (fraction of year).
.8980 x 969* lunar years (without any corrections for the drift) = 870.162 solar years.
Third: however you came up with those figures, you’re off by an order of magnitude.
*The Biblical account says that Methuselah lived to be 969.